In this episode of Further Reflections we hear about Permaculture and life in China. In 2012 Mark gave a presentation while he was volunteering in Peru about Permaculture design principles. He touches on the works of Bill Mollison, Toby Hemenway and Sepp Holzer, discusses sustainable living and raises the issue of ethics in this interactive talk. Mark then returns to the subject of China and reflects on the years 2005-2006 when he was living for a year in Xuzhou, Jiangsu Province. Hear both the highs and lows of that experience, learn about travel in Jiangsu, Shandong, Anhui and Zhejiang and the story of the girl on the train. In the Final Five minutes Mark talks about War and Peace.